Comments on: if a policeman claims you were going over the speed limit and its his word vs yours will it stand up in court? http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court No more tickets Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:32:59 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Extra http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-700 Extra Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:05:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-700 Was he on his own and on foot or in a car? If he was on his own on foot then not a hope of getting a prosecution and it won't even get to court probably. If he was in a car then that is a different matter and you will probably get done because he will have "formed his opinion" and this will be "proven" or backed up by his calibrated speedometer in the car. If you want info then go to http://www.pepipoo.com<br><b>References : </b><br> Was he on his own and on foot or in a car?

If he was on his own on foot then not a hope of getting a prosecution and it won’t even get to court probably.

If he was in a car then that is a different matter and you will probably get done because he will have "formed his opinion" and this will be "proven" or backed up by his calibrated speedometer in the car.

If you want info then go to http://www.pepipoo.com
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]]> By: SimonC http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-699 SimonC Tue, 09 Feb 2010 08:25:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-699 "isitme" is basically correct. Speeding charges need corroborating evidence. The word of a single officer is not enough. If there were 2 officers in the car who saw the speedo, and the speedo had been certified as accurate, that would be enough. Otherwise some form of electronic evidence is needed, along with the evidence of the officer. EG a speed gun or a video recording with a calibrated speed measurement. The police are not stupid. If there is nothing suitable the case will not proceed. If it does expect 4 to 6 points and a stiff fine.<br><b>References : </b><br> "isitme" is basically correct. Speeding charges need corroborating evidence. The word of a single officer is not enough. If there were 2 officers in the car who saw the speedo, and the speedo had been certified as accurate, that would be enough.

Otherwise some form of electronic evidence is needed, along with the evidence of the officer. EG a speed gun or a video recording with a calibrated speed measurement.

The police are not stupid. If there is nothing suitable the case will not proceed. If it does expect 4 to 6 points and a stiff fine.
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]]> By: "isitme" http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-698 "isitme" Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:41:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-698 He doesn't need a camera or a laser, but he does need some form of corroboration, he will have had some form of device in the car, like a 'Provida' in which case you friend is bang to rights!<br><b>References : </b><br> He doesn’t need a camera or a laser, but he does need some form of corroboration, he will have had some form of device in the car, like a ‘Provida’ in which case you friend is bang to rights!
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]]> By: Steve V http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-697 Steve V Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:09:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-697 She needs to ask for a copy of the last Speedo calibration of the police vehicle and request a copy of the vehicle daily check..that police officer is required to do before taking the vehicle onto the road. If these are in order, it is her word against his. She will lose!! Police officers will lie in order to obtain the conviction in court. .i know i have been their and witnessed it myself. The magistrate will always believe the officer no matter what.<br><b>References : </b><br>experience She needs to ask for a copy of the last Speedo calibration of the police vehicle and request a copy of the vehicle daily check..that police officer is required to do before taking the vehicle onto the road.

If these are in order, it is her word against his. She will lose!!

Police officers will lie in order to obtain the conviction in court. .i know i have been their and witnessed it myself. The magistrate will always believe the officer no matter what.
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]]> By: oklatom http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-696 oklatom Tue, 09 Feb 2010 07:03:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-696 It isn't just a simple word against word. The officer has a certified speedometer in his car. All he had to do was match his speed with hers and read it directly off the speedometer in his car. You don't need cameras of lasers to prove someone was over the limit. Although most cars are equipped with dash cams which would show the relative speed if needed. Also, police are required to show they can estimate speed within a few miles of being exact on a regular basis, so their word as to the speed you were doing would have the weight of an expert witness. I suspect you (sorry, your friend's daughter) will be convicted of 55 in a 30, 25 over which may be enhanced to reckless driving, and probably should have taken the 3 points and fine.<br><b>References : </b><br> It isn’t just a simple word against word. The officer has a certified speedometer in his car. All he had to do was match his speed with hers and read it directly off the speedometer in his car. You don’t need cameras of lasers to prove someone was over the limit. Although most cars are equipped with dash cams which would show the relative speed if needed.

Also, police are required to show they can estimate speed within a few miles of being exact on a regular basis, so their word as to the speed you were doing would have the weight of an expert witness.

I suspect you (sorry, your friend’s daughter) will be convicted of 55 in a 30, 25 over which may be enhanced to reckless driving, and probably should have taken the 3 points and fine.
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]]> By: Dion J http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-695 Dion J Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:53:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-695 The court will believe the cops- always. At least in the U.S.<br><b>References : </b><br> The court will believe the cops- always.
At least in the U.S.
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]]> By: mike i http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-694 mike i Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:11:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-694 Judges will almost ALWAYS believe policemen. THEY have a better word over yours, right from the start...period. HOWEVER......i've talked to Chief of police before, he said SOMETIMES if a police officer has a bad reputation in court....never has his paper work straight, or has been caught stretching the truth or been telling shady stories before....the judges MAY agree with the citizen instead. I've heard stories of a certain judge and a certain officer in maryland. Everytime the officer was showing up to court to get a citizen charged with a particular traffic violation, the judge would just THROW HIM OUT of court!!! Because apparently the cop was repeatedly proven to be an idiot and doing things WRONG....ALOT....never had paperwork straight or evidence....and was notorious for doing so.... I cant imagine a judge doing that to a cop, but its absolutely true! haha So judges dont always side with cops.....it just depends....every case is handled on it's own merits.<br><b>References : </b><br>CJS major. Judges will almost ALWAYS believe policemen.

THEY have a better word over yours, right from the start…period.

HOWEVER……i’ve talked to Chief of police before, he said SOMETIMES if a police officer has a bad reputation in court….never has his paper work straight, or has been caught stretching the truth or been telling shady stories before….the judges MAY agree with the citizen instead.

I’ve heard stories of a certain judge and a certain officer in maryland.

Everytime the officer was showing up to court to get a citizen charged with a particular traffic violation, the judge would just THROW HIM OUT of court!!!

Because apparently the cop was repeatedly proven to be an idiot and doing things WRONG….ALOT….never had paperwork straight or evidence….and was notorious for doing so….

I cant imagine a judge doing that to a cop, but its absolutely true!
haha

So judges dont always side with cops…..it just depends….every case is handled on it’s own merits.
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]]> By: Marcus http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-693 Marcus Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:47:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-693 Won't go to court, he should have arrested her and took her in for a breath and blood, if he had evidence. Single copper, no evidence? Whack a complaint in to the Chief Constable. Trying it on in my opinion.<br><b>References : </b><br> Won’t go to court, he should have arrested her and took her in for a breath and blood, if he had evidence. Single copper, no evidence?

Whack a complaint in to the Chief Constable. Trying it on in my opinion.
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]]> By: tac tics http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-692 tac tics Tue, 09 Feb 2010 05:10:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-692 where are these other people from? im assuming we are talking about great(and i'm using the term loosely here ) britain? you are done what you are failing to mention that there was more than one saw you... and they will testify to that, how the h.ell do you think they get up the ladder? and dont think they cant. very rarely will a judge not choose to listen to and prefer the evidence of the polis. they might try and claim they were tailing her...<br><b>References : </b><br> where are these other people from? im assuming we are talking about great(and i’m using the term loosely here ) britain? you are done what you are failing to mention that there was more than one saw you… and they will testify to that, how the h.ell do you think they get up the ladder? and dont think they cant. very rarely will a judge not choose to listen to and prefer the evidence of the polis. they might try and claim they were tailing her…
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]]> By: MikeGolf http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court/comment-page-1#comment-691 MikeGolf Tue, 09 Feb 2010 04:57:59 +0000 http://www.foxfire1.com/laser-speed-cameras/if-a-policeman-claims-you-were-going-over-the-speed-limit-and-its-his-word-vs-yours-will-it-stand-up-in-court#comment-691 She is likely to lose. First of all: because the policeman will probably be able to show that he has been trained, tested and certified in the ability to visually determine a vehicle's speed (not as hard as you think). Second: he will produce a calibration certificate for the speedometer for his vehicle.<br><b>References : </b><br> She is likely to lose.

First of all: because the policeman will probably be able to show that he has been trained, tested and certified in the ability to visually determine a vehicle’s speed (not as hard as you think).
Second: he will produce a calibration certificate for the speedometer for his vehicle.
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